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What is it about Willie’s singing?

February 8, 2010 · 1 Comment

About Willie Nelson, Ray Charles says, “When he sings one note –one note, not two–you know it’s Willie Nelson!”

What makes Willie’s voice unique?

One aspect of singing is rhythm.

Back phrasing is what comes to Waylon Jennings’ mind when thinking of Willie’s voice. Waylon points to the confusion and worry he feels when Willie starts singing a phrase.

Back phrasing is when a singer sings in front of the beat or behind the beat on purpose.

Typically, Willie is so off the beat when he starts off that Waylon thinks there will be no way for Willie to snap back into the groove. But, he “always comes out of it,” Waylon says.

Another important aspect of singing is, of course, melody. Willie has his way with that too. And again, he plays with listeners’ expectations.

“He’ll get that melody muddled up in the middle,” says record exec Joe Allison. But just when you think there is ” no way will he make it out at the end of the measure… it always comes out.”

Since staying on the beat is so important in rock and country, what does that make Willie? A jazz singer?

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February 7, 2010 · Leave a Comment

Not singing:

Needing more time


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February 7, 2010 · Leave a Comment

Not singing:

Staring out the window

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Marcia Ball assesses her voice

February 6, 2010 · Leave a Comment


Boogie-woogie piano, swamp rock, bluesy ballads and zydeco all go into the gumbo that is singer-songwriter Marcia Ball’s tenth studio album, “Peace, Love and BBQ.”

Ball’s voice is featured prominently on the release. “Peace, Love and BBQ” also marks the return of Tracy Nelson who sang on Ball’s 1998 album, “Sing It” which also featured Irma Thomas, a blues singer idolized by both Ball and Nelson.

I talked with Ball about her smoky voice.

Myers: A lot has been said about your piano skills and your songwriting skills. I’d like to focus on another one of your talents—your singing. The All Music Blog points out that Steven Bruton’s production on “Peace, Love, and BBQ” keeps the sound open to highlight the voice in the mix. Is that something you did on purpose?

Ball: Yeah, it’s something we try to do and I have to also give credit to our engineer, Chet Himes, who is a master of sensitive engineering and mixing. It’s a team effort when you get to the refining. The end of the refinement process of making a record, and the mix, is very important or you bury good things in the mix. Chet does not do that.

Myers: It seems also that it’d be tricky to do that when piano and horns are so prominent, since they are in the same range as a voice.

Ball: Yeah, we put a lot in a record. There’s a lot of layers and so it’s very tricky to not have one thing overwhelm another.

Myers: USA Today referred to you as a “sensational, saucy singer.” I’ve also read your voice described as being soulful and husky. What goes into your vocal approach to a song?

Ball: I guess part of what I do is try to find songs that work for this kind of fractured voice of mine. I try to find songs that I’m really sure that I can do—that are true to me, so that I can deliver them, so that I can sing them sincerely. If you can do that, if you can deliver the message, then the singing part of it comes very naturally.

Myers: Are there certain kinds of songs where you know, “OK, that’s going to work well with my voice” and others that you think might not be a good match for you voice?

Ball: A lot of times, I don’t know what’s gonna’ happen until I just get in there and do it and sometimes we let something go…For the most part, I pretty much know what I’m going to record and just go in and do it. I prepare for these things for a long time in advance. So I try to get my songs in line and hopefully, I have been singing them for a while. Sometimes we get something at the last minute, but pretty often I’ve been writing these songs for a little while, or listening to them or singing them live. I think the best work I do sometimes is a surprise. We had songs that we just needed one more song to fill out the record and we’ll pull something out of our repertoire and it turns out that it is one of the better songs on the record.

Myers: When you’re singing live, do you have favorite songs to sing?

Ball: Well, when we do a show, I worry about this a little bit, because we start with the same three songs in many shows. That is because it’s my warm-up. I haven’t been professionally trained, so I don’t have a vocal warm-up back stage where I’m running scales or anything. The first three songs I sing are the same songs that I do almost every night to start with, and that’s what warms me up. I have to be kind of careful not to throw something out there that I’m not ready for at the very beginning of a set.

Myers: Does the way you sing affect the way you play piano?

Ball: Yeah, I think so. My piano playing supports my singing and—to about the same extent—my singing supports my piano playing. I’m actually used to doing both at the same time and I lean on one to support the other. Basically, what I say is, I sing well enough to accompany my playing and I play well enough to accompany my singing.

Myers: Can you give me an example?

Ball: Well, sometimes I find that if I’m doing a song like “Sing It,” for instance, from that record that I did with Irma Thomas and Tracy Nelson, or any of my up-tempo kind of jump tunes, sometimes my piano playing is as frantic as my singing. I’m doing both at the same time and it’s full speed ahead and the energy feeds on itself.

Myers: Tracy Nelson is on “Sing It” and she’s on the new album too. What is it about your voices that works well together?

Ball: I don’t know. It’s a miracle that it does at all. Tracy’s got that huge voice. When I did that record with her and Irma Thomas, I wondered if I was going to be heard with those big voices, and it just worked. We made it work.
Myers: How did you decide who would sing what on that album?

Ball: Well, we’re all tenors to some degree, but Tracy has the lowest voice and Irma definitely has the mid, and if I try real hard, I can hit a higher note. So, that’s what we did. None of us were singing real high though, I guarantee you.

Myers: How did you all come together to record “Sing It?”

Ball: We were all on Rounder Records at the time, as I recall. Ever since I had done the record that I did with Angela Strehli and Lou Ann Barton back a ways, Rounder had hoped to have a project like that for us [Thomas, Nelson and Ball]. So we did. Tracy was a big fan of Irma’s as was I. Tracy had heard her when she was just starting out playing music, and had sought her out. So we were both big fans of Irma’s. It was really an opportunity for us to work with her.

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Geoff Byrd on the truth in singing

February 5, 2010 · 1 Comment


Singer Geoff Byrd has an amazing voice. I’ve seen him open for Hall and Oates. He is cut from a similar cloth as Daryl Hall, Marvin Gaye and Al Green. Here are some thoughts on singing that he has contributed to this blog on what singing does for him:

“To me singing is the way I truly communicate my intent. Words are clumsy. Misunderstandings are a daily occurrence. But there is intent behind all words. There is a truth that longs to be understood. That is singing to me. It is the only time I make sense to other people. It reminds me that I am not alone in the world. It is freedom.”

See Geoff in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmNw1×6hMTY&feature=related

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I will be thinking of you! A mental exercise that brings far away loved ones home

February 4, 2010 · Leave a Comment

My grandma and I have always been close, in spite of the fact that for most of my life, we’ve lived far away from one another.  On the phone, when Grandma says she is thinking of me, I believe her because I can feel it.

Throughout my life, whenever someone said, “I’ll be thinking of you,” it seemed like more than a platitude to me. It helped.

Whether I was staring down an important exam at school or lying in a hospital bed, knowing that a loved one had me in mind at that specific moment provided comfort.

Even blowing out candles on a birthday cake feels better when you know you’re in someone’s thoughts.

Because Grandma is in Florida, these moments of well wishing are even more meaningful. They make the connection between us almost palpable.

Whether it’s a holiday, or a sunny Sunday morning, I keep Grandma in mind and I hope that in doing so, it will somehow increase the chances that I will pop into her mind as well.

I get as specific as I can—so my imagination can take hold.    I try to picture what Grandma is doing at the moment I am thinking of her.    Usually, I see Grandma at home, in the house that Grandpa always wanted, on a golf course.

Then I fill in details using memories from my visits. I try to feel the warmth from the sun coming through the screens on the porch.

I can see the sun slanting into the yard as Grandma steps out to do some gardening before the day gets hot.

I would bet that I don’t pop into Grandma’s thoughts too often while she’s on day trips with friends, but as the evening cools and she goes for a walk, there is yet another chance for family to reunite.

Quiet, meditative times allow friends and family to connect even when they can’t afford the plane ticket.

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iDoolde of Jimmy Stewart

February 3, 2010 · Leave a Comment

A doodle of Jimmy Stewart done on my iPhone. It's a Wonderful Life is my favorite movie.

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The Joy of Life as seen through Brandi Carlile’s

February 2, 2010 · Leave a Comment

“Brandi Carlile’s deep, emotive voice is instantly recognizable by the crack it inevitably hits just before liftoff,” I wrote in a music story for The Montclair Times. “With only three studio albums under her belt, Carlile has toured with the Dave Matthews Band and collaborated with Elton John. She’s worked with the most sought-after producers in the business and counts childhood hero Amy Ray of The Indigo Girls as among her friends.”


In the interview that follows are questions and answers that did not go into the story I wrote for The Montclair Times. This Q&A shows a different side of the artist—her Zen-like approach to life. She even applies this approach to screaming.

Gene: After your first album came out, 2005’s “Brandi Carlile,” Rolling Stone and Paste magazines were calling you an artist to watch. Did that create pressure for you?

Brandi: Well, that’s the thing…pressure to do what? When music is innate in you and it feels like who you are, as long as you’re doing it at whatever level you’re doing it at, you feel successful. So when those things happened, I just felt successful. Even when I could just fill up a bar on a Sunday night, I felt successful. If I could get somebody to stop and listen to me play a song, I felt successful.

Gene: What do you enjoy the most about your job?

Brandi: I enjoy the exchange of energy with a multitude of people. I really enjoy standing on stage and projecting as much energy as I possibly can to a thousand people and having them project it right back. That feeling and that rush of being an entertainer and also being entertained is what I’m happiest about with my job, and the platform it gives me to affect important change in the world that I’ve always thought about but never been able to do.

Gene: The break in your voice is a key part of your sound. How does it affect how you approach a song?

Brandi: I think it probably came from Patsy Cline. I spent a lot of time mimicking her when I was young…The break in my voice, you know, I’ve been criticized for it before and warned that maybe it’s a flaw. But when I do it, it’s a place to get power from and it feels good to let my voice break because I don’t really know how it’s going to recover and I think that unpredictability is what makes my voice keep people on edge.

Gene: Does it keep you on edge, or do you plan out in advance how you’re going to use it?

Brandi: I don’t plan anything. I plan every day to get up on stage and sing with restraint and just sing my songs, but it doesn’t work that way. I end up a total vehicle.

Gene: There is a version of you doing the song “Creep” live in Boston. It sounds there like you’re really tearing your voice. Are you really blowing it out or is there a way to do that where it sounds like you’re blowing your voice out, but you’re not?

Brandi: There’s this woman in Seattle named Susan Carr who teaches how to do it and there’s a woman named Melissa Cross who has a DVD series called “The Zen of Screaming.” I’ve never trained with either of those people and I’ve only touched on “The Zen of Screaming” DVD. My friend Amy Ray loaned it to me. But I understand the concept. The concept is that behind that scream, behind that power, you have to be calm and know enough that you can do it before you do it. It’s tension and the nervousness behind the scream that tears your voice up because it forces you to use a part of your instrument that shouldn’t be used to push that much power through your throat. But if you’re confident when you scream that way, you can use your core in a way that it doesn’t really ever touch your throat. It’s kind of the same concept behind how a martial artist can smash a cinderblock with his head and not have a scratch on him. It defies physical reason.

Gene: Amy Ray, there’s somebody who was on a poster on your wall and now you are [friends]. Does that feel surreal?

Brandi: Well, when it comes to Amy and Emily, particularly, it was never about them being on a poster. It was about the message they were sending out. They were sending out a social message in their activism, and in their lyrics. There was a time when the Indigo Girls were a call to arms for collegians and academics and gay kids, political kids. That was what I got swept up in — that kind of hurricane of social consciousness. It affected me as an artist. I’m still in awe of it. They have no idea that they have that effect on people. And there’s a reason why they have no idea that they have that effect on people and that is because you can’t have that effect on people and know it. If you knew it, you wouldn’t be able to innocently do it.

Gene: How so?

Brandi: The theory that I have is that you can’t know you’re wise and be wise. You know what I mean? You can’t be searching for the answer and think that you have the answer. If you think you’re wise, then whether you want to or not, you found a way to stop learning.

Gene: Do you worry about preserving your voice so you have it 30 years from now or do you think that that “Zen of Screaming” technique is good enough?

Brandi: I think that technique is good enough. I have confidence in the evolution of my voice and my artistry, that as time goes by, my voice may mellow out. I may become a different singer. I may become a jazz singer by the end of my life. I don’t know what’s gonna’ happen. I don’t know what will happen to my voice, but I’m confident that what’s meant to happen to it will because that’s what’s brought me to where I am now.

Gene: What’s next for you?

Brandi: Hmmm. What’s next for me is just the continuum of my life right now. I’d hate to put more milestones in front of me because I already feel — and I mean this genuinely – just overwhelmingly fortunate. And if I can just continue on this way and if I can get on a tour bus for my next tour and continue to go play venues and have people show up, then I’m really happy with that being next for me.

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Interview with Brandi Carlile: The Zen of life & screaming

February 1, 2010 · 1 Comment

Brandi Carlile’s deep, emotive voice is instantly recognizable by the crack it inevitably hits just before liftoff.

You can forget that it is 2010 while listening to her songs because they sound like ready-made classics. Her lyrics show the miles she’s clocked on the road and there is no doubt that she’s a seasoned professional by the way she takes to the stage.

Like Johnny Cash and Roy Orbison before her, she’s found her way to success by doing the only thing she knows how to do. In this context, it’s no surprise that her hero is Patsy Cline. What is hard to believe is that Carlile was born in 1982.

Right out of the gate, Carlile was labeled as an artist to watch by magazines like Paste and Rolling Stone. With only three studio recordings under her belt, Carlile has toured with the Dave Matthews Band and collaborated with Elton John. She’s worked with the most sought-after producers in the business and counts childhood hero Amy Ray of The Indigo Girls as among her friends.

Could anyone live up to such hype? You wonder. Then her voice starts to soar and it’s clear that she is right where she belongs: another link in the chain of country-tinged singer/songwriters whose talent is singular.

Q: What drew you to music?

A: I have a musical family. My grandfather and his siblings and my great-grandmother and then my mother — a wonderful singer. We spent a lot of nights at the family jam sessions listening to them. Even as little, little kids, I remember sneaking up the stairs when I was supposed to be in bed and listening for hours and hours. And then they would record them on the cassette tape or whatever medium they had. We’d listen to them all week at home and it was just something that our family did and that we always wanted to be included in. Kind of like one of those things that you have restrictions on when you’re young, so when you get older, you just want to be able to do as much of it as you possibly can. Because we always had to go to bed and we never got to jam or play with the band, once we got to a certain age, our parents worked it out with us that we could do one song with the band first. It became something that was doled out to us, like ice cream or something. Then we just really caught the bug at that point.

Q: There’s a certain quality to your voice that connects with me emotionally, even before the brain kicks in. Do you have any idea what that is? What creates that kind of appeal? Are there singers that you feel like that about?

A: In some ways I feel like the voices of the artists that I loved during my coming of age were a huge part of my upbringing. Hearing Patsy Cline and Johnny Cash sing, it feels like my mother and father’s voice. Then hearing Elton John sing and Emily Saliers and Amy Ray of the Indigo Girls sing, it feels like my coming of age — my transition out of my youth. Those things connect with me emotionally, in a way that’s sensory. It’s not even a decision I ever made. When it comes to my voice and my singing, I’ve listened to videotapes of me singing when I was like 8, 9 years old and I thought I had the weirdest little voice, because it was weird! It was always deep, but it was coming out of this little kid.

Q: Do you think of yourself as primarily a singer or a songwriter—does one or the other come first for you?

A: I started out as a singer, never even considering being a songwriter. I was much more concerned with being an entertainer than anything else. Being an entertainer meant to use your voice in a big dramatic way and to just have it completely project from your body. And also, to get dressed up and to respect your audience. That’s what I always thought it was to be an entertainer. I loved Elvis Presley. I loved Roy Orbison. I loved all of the Grand Ole Opry: Minnie Pearl, Little Jenny Dickens, Johnny Cash, Brenda Lee. Those were my heroes. Patsy Cline’s my hero. Those artists didn’t necessarily write songs. In fact, if they did, it wasn’t what they were revered for. So, I never considered being a songwriter until I turned about 13 or 14 and fell in love with rock-n-roll music and realized that those folks wrote songs for themselves.

Q: The break in your voice is a key part of your sound. How does it affect how you approach a song?

A: I think it probably came from Patsy Cline. I spent a lot of time mimicking her when I was young. But the deal is that I mimicked such a diverse group of people that it brings uniqueness. To other people, it sounds like uniqueness. To me, it sounds like my influences. It’s just that I have a vast array of influences. The break in my voice, you know, I’ve been criticized for it before and warned that maybe it’s a flaw. But when I do it, it’s a place to get power from and it feels good to let my voice break because I don’t really know how it’s going to recover and I think that unpredictability is what makes my voice keep people on edge.

Q: Does it keep you on edge, or do you plan out in advance how you’re going to use it?

A: I don’t plan anything. I plan everyday to get up on stage and sing with restraint and just sing my songs, but it doesn’t work that way. I end up a total vehicle.

Q: There is a version of you doing the song “Creep” live in Boston. It sounds there like you’re really tearing your voice. Are you really blowing it out or is there a way to do that where it sounds like you’re blowing your voice out, but you’re not?

A: There’s this woman in Seattle named Susan Carr who teaches how to do it and there’s a woman named Melissa Cross who has a DVD series called “The Zen of Screaming.” I’ve never trained with either of those people and I’ve only touched on “The Zen of Screaming” DVD. My friend Amy Ray loaned it to me. But I understand the concept. The concept is that behind that scream, behind that power, you have to be calm and know enough that you can do it before you do it. It’s tension and the nervousness behind the scream that tears your voice up because it forces you to use a part of your instrument that shouldn’t be used to push that much power through your throat. But if you’re confident when you scream that way, you can use your core in a way that it doesn’t really ever touch your throat. It’s kind of the same concept behind how a martial artist can smash a cinderblock with his head and not have a scratch on him. It defies physical reason.

Q: Now, you just said, your “friend Amy Ray.” There’s somebody that was very important to you when you were younger and now she’s a friend of yours. How does that feel?

Brandi: Also, drawing to the last point, there’s somebody that’s been screaming for 25 years and still sings like an angel. But Amy, oh boy, I value her so much in life. I value her in the present and I value her in the past in various ways.

A: There’s somebody who was on a poster on your wall and now you are cohorts. Does that feel surreal?

Brandi: Well, when it comes to Amy and Emily, particularly, it was never about them being on a poster. It was about the message they were sending out. They were sending out a social message in their activism, and in their lyrics. There was a time when the Indigo Girls were a call to arms for collegians and academics and gay kids, political kids. That was what I got swept up in — that kind of hurricane of social consciousness. It affected me as an artist. I’m still in awe of it. They have no idea that they have that effect on people. And there’s a reason why they have no idea that they have that effect on people and that is because you can’t have that effect on people and know it. If you knew it, you wouldn’t be able to innocently do it.

Q: How so?

A: The theory that I have is that you can’t know you’re wise and be wise. You know what I mean? You can’t be searching for the answer and think that you have the answer. If you think you’re wise, then whether you want to or not, you found a way to stop learning.

Q: What’s next for you?

A: Hmmm. What’s next for me is just the continuum of my life right now. I’d hate to put more milestones in front of me because I already feel – and I mean this genuinely – just overwhelmingly fortunate. And if I can just continue on this way and if I can get on a tour bus for my next tour and continue to go play venues and have people show up, then I’m really happy with that being next for me.

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iPhone doodle of Sting

February 1, 2010 · Leave a Comment

A doodle of Sting done on me iPhone

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